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« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2012, 02:07:38 PM » |
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I haven't seen many of his ABs, but what's the thought on Bogusevic in 2012? He seemed to turn the corner last year but has regressed this year.
I don't know that he's regressed. His hitting is not what you want but it is still very early in the year to say he's regressed IMO. He's just struggling at the plate hopefully and will come around. He may be streaky. Last year he had a great streak surroundibed by alot of what he's doing now. |
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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2012, 03:52:07 PM » |
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Going back to the subject line of this thread, I think they lose 100+ games. This run of losses is just the start.
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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2012, 05:07:57 PM » |
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It's really, really surprising to me that pitchers have a different opinion on this than do catchers/position players.
Shocking, I know. Being that "utility drunk" does not fall specifically into either category, I like to think of myself as a neutral arbiter, and therefore the final and binding opinion on the subject. This thread is now closed. |
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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2012, 05:40:49 PM » |
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Right...it's the Big Leagues. Pitchers are supposed to be able to throw the ball 60 feet on the fly. Not that the catcher shouldn't be able to help out the pitcher, but any ball that hits the dirt is a wild pitch. Period.
Typical catcher. You practice blocking balls in the dirt because it is a staple pitch when ahead in the count. If a pitcher can't make that throw because he's got an ole' statue back there behind the dish, he's lost a huge weapon. Do you even agree that Castro has very poor blocking technique with respect to balls on either side of him? |
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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2012, 11:38:53 PM » |
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Shocking, I know. Being that "utility drunk" does not fall specifically into either category, I like to think of myself as a neutral arbiter, and therefore the final and binding opinion on the subject. This thread is now closed.
Looks like one got by ... so is that a passed ball or a wild pitch? |
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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2012, 08:43:20 AM » |
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Typical catcher. You practice blocking balls in the dirt because it is a staple pitch when ahead in the count. If a pitcher can't make that throw because he's got an ole' statue back there behind the dish, he's lost a huge weapon. Typical pitcher. You practice not bouncing pitches because you risk giving up bases. I agree that a good catcher needs to be able to block pitches and give confidence to the pitcher to make pitches. But I don't agree that when a pitcher throws one 37 feet, it's the catcher's fault. Do you even agree that Castro has very poor blocking technique with respect to balls on either side of him?
I've not noticed him being particularly poor at blocking pitches, but I've not watched him a ton either. He does seem pretty stiff back there. |
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« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2012, 10:57:43 AM » |
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Typical pitcher. You practice not bouncing pitches because you risk giving up bases. I agree that a good catcher needs to be able to block pitches and give confidence to the pitcher to make pitches. But I don't agree that when a pitcher throws one 37 feet, it's the catcher's fault.
I've not noticed him being particularly poor at blocking pitches, but I've not watched him a ton either. He does seem pretty stiff back there.
The 37 footer is on the pitcher. I agree. However, it's a much closer call on the 59 1/2 footer. |
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« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2012, 11:04:34 AM » |
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i am in the "if the ball bounces, it is a WP" camp. it is hard for me to say that a catcher who fails to block a ball in the dirt gets a PB.
do i lose my Pitcher's Union card?
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« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2012, 11:06:06 AM » |
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i am in the "if the ball bounces, it is a WP" camp. it is hard for me to say that a catcher who fails to block a ball in the dirt gets a PB.
do i lose my Pitcher's Union card?
No, because you got one of the granite ones. |
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« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2012, 11:14:45 AM » |
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I would think that as a pitcher you'd have much more to blame a catcher for than blocking a ball you threw in the dirt. To me, if the catcher is lazy and does not move in and out of the box and only calls for a fastball and places his mitt dead red... I'm more pissed off than he failed to block the ball in the dirt (that is on me to begin with).
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« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2012, 04:10:51 PM » |
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I would think that as a pitcher you'd have much more to blame a catcher for than blocking a ball you threw in the dirt. To me, if the catcher is lazy and does not move in and out of the box and only calls for a fastball and places his mitt dead red... I'm more pissed off than he failed to block the ball in the dirt (that is on me to begin with).
Lest anyone misunderstand me, I love catchers. A good catcher is in my opinion the pitcher's biggest advocate and best friend. My comments are really aimed at catchers who, as Noe said, are lazy and do the old ole' back stab at balls to either side of them without coming out of the box to meet the ball as they are taught. |
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« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2012, 04:20:04 PM » |
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Lest anyone misunderstand me, I love catchers. A good catcher is in my opinion the pitcher's biggest advocate and best friend. My comments are really aimed at catchers who, as Noe said, are lazy and do the old ole' back stab at balls to either side of them without coming out of the box to meet the ball as they are taught.
To sum up: Pitchers don't like crappy catchers Catchers don't like crappy pitchers |
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« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2012, 11:48:55 AM » |
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Shocking, I know. Being that "utility drunk" does not fall specifically into either category, I like to think of myself as a neutral arbiter, and therefore the final and binding opinion on the subject. This thread is now closed.
Don't feel too bad, JA. You'd start at drunk for any other message board. This board just happens to be '27 Yankees deep at that category. |
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