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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 09:49:25 AM » |
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No, it's the HOF's choice. If there are several legit options, the HOF will consider the player's wish, but the decision belongs to the HOF.
Was that because of Wade Boggs wanting a team (BoSox, Yankees, or Devil Rays) to pay him to have him wear their cap in the HOF induction? |
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 09:50:21 AM » |
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No, it's the HOF's choice. If there are several legit options, the HOF will consider the player's wish, but the decision belongs to the HOF.
Which begs the question: how could Boggs have it written into his contract? |
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 10:05:29 AM » |
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Isn't the cap the choice of the player?
It used to be (Ryan chose the Rangers). But post-Wade Boggs picking the Devil Rays for his cap, the museum decides. |
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 10:25:50 AM » |
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Which begs the question: how could Boggs have it written into his contract?
You can write anything you want in the contract. The HOF didn't sign the contract, they have no say so or obligations with respect to it. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2012, 10:28:05 AM » |
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You can write anything you want in the contract. The HOF didn't sign the contract, they have no say so or obligations with respect to it.
But at the time, it would have been Boggs choice and he would be bound by the contract to choose it. |
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2012, 10:28:36 AM » |
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It used to be (Ryan chose the Rangers). But post-Wade Boggs picking the Devil Rays for his cap, the museum decides.
The HOF contends it's always been their choice, it just wasn't an issue until Boggs. So they "clarified". |
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 10:29:20 AM » |
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But at the time, it would have been Boggs choice and he would be bound by the contract to choose it.
But the HOF never had to honor his choice. |
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 10:33:08 AM » |
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But the HOF never had to honor his choice.
It certainly turned out that way. |
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 10:37:28 AM » |
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It certainly turned out that way.
We'll see if they need to have the same fight with Clemens. |
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 10:38:44 AM » |
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We'll see if they need to have the same fight with Clemens.
You don't think the Yankees are a legitimate choice? |
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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2012, 10:39:40 AM » |
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You don't think the Yankees are a legitimate choice?
That seems like the most likely team to me. |
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2012, 10:40:48 AM » |
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You don't think the Yankees are a legitimate choice?
I don't make the choice either. But the HOF has already said Boston would be the cap. Roger said no. The HOF said tough shit, it's our decision. Roger said count me out of the ceremony then. The HOF said, as you wish. |
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2012, 10:41:06 AM » |
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That seems like the most likely team to me.
HOF has already declared it will be Boston. |
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2012, 10:45:14 AM » |
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We'll see if they need to have the same fight with Clemens.
He has to get voted in first. |
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« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2012, 10:45:46 AM » |
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He has to get voted in first.
Hence my first comment about "we'll see..." |
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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2012, 10:52:18 AM » |
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I don't make the choice either. But the HOF has already said Boston would be the cap. Roger said no. The HOF said tough shit, it's our decision. Roger said count me out of the ceremony then. The HOF said, as you wish.
That debate entirely escaped my notice. Needless to say, Clemens is still a prick. |
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2012, 10:58:47 AM » |
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Needless to say, Clemens is still a prick.
This is an understatement, Bench. |
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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2012, 10:59:16 AM » |
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That debate entirely escaped my notice. Needless to say, Clemens is still a prick.
I didn't remember that either. Clemens is probably worse than a prick, but I don't think it's that unreasonable for him to wear a Yankee cap if that's what he wants (he did win his only 2 world series there). |
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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2012, 11:14:33 AM » |
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I didn't remember that either. Clemens is probably worse than a prick, but I don't think it's that unreasonable for him to wear a Yankee cap if that's what he wants (he did win his only 2 world series there).
The HOF said Boston puts his his career in historical context better. It's not about any particular accomplishment, it's about history. He pitched in Boston more than twice as long as he did in NY. That's probably their biggest factor. |
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2012, 11:21:28 AM » |
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I didn't remember that either. Clemens is probably worse than a prick, but I don't think it's that unreasonable for him to wear a Yankee cap if that's what he wants (he did win his only 2 world series there).
Plus his 300th win, etc... |
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