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« Reply #240 on: May 11, 2012, 08:44:13 PM » |
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I remember Heck saying they made a "substantial" offer, but there's really no telling what that means. $1M was the number I saw mentioned on the webs (can't remember if there was a solid source).
I heard it mentioned on an LSU broadcast one day. I want to say that it was well above $1M, possibly $2M. |
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« Reply #241 on: May 12, 2012, 05:54:46 AM » |
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Wasn't Boras the "advisor" to Jacoby Jones? Of course no one knows what our final offer was for Jones, but McLane did have post-Beltran dealings with Boras-none successfully however.
I think you have your jones' mixed up. That was Chad Jones who the Astros drafted and decided to go to LSU as a DB and play baseball as well. |
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« Reply #242 on: May 12, 2012, 06:51:33 AM » |
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I think you have your jones' mixed up. That was Chad Jones who the Astros drafted and decided to go to LSU as a DB and play baseball as well.
I remember it being Jacoby, every serach you had to weed through wide receiver articles |
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« Reply #243 on: May 12, 2012, 09:13:18 AM » |
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If you're looking at stat lines, the top 3 pitchers aren't making things easy:
Appel: 8 IP 6 H 2 R 1 BB 10 K (has given up 2 or fewer runs in each of his last 6 starts)
Zimmer: 7 IP 6H 1 R 2 BB 11 K (3 consecutive starts w/ 10+ Ks)
Gausman: 9 IP 5 H 1 R 1 BB 11 K (5th time this season w/ 10+ Ks)
I don't know how their stuff was, but the results surely left an impression on whatever brass was in attendance.
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« Reply #244 on: May 12, 2012, 09:18:21 AM » |
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Wasn't Boras the "advisor" to Jacoby Jones? Of course no one knows what our final offer was for Jones, but McLane did have post-Beltran dealings with Boras-none successfully however.
FWIW, Ivan Rodriguez was a Boras post-Beltran signing, can't think of any others though. |
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« Reply #245 on: May 12, 2012, 10:18:50 AM » |
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FWIW, Ivan Rodriguez was a Boras post-Beltran signing, can't think of any others though.
From this list, we've had Villone, Chen, Gaston, and SBB (don't remember if he signed any contracts with him as an agent, though). http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/scott-boras-cli.html |
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« Reply #246 on: May 12, 2012, 10:23:29 AM » |
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FWIW, Ivan Rodriguez was a Boras post-Beltran signing, can't think of any others though.
Not the same I know, but was Bourn with Boras when they traded for him? |
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« Reply #247 on: May 12, 2012, 10:42:32 AM » |
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Not the same I know, but was Bourn with Boras when they traded for him?
That would be an affirmative. |
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« Reply #248 on: May 12, 2012, 12:17:03 PM » |
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Not the same I know, but was Bourn with Boras when they traded for him?
Nope, he switched when he was with the Astros. |
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« Reply #249 on: May 12, 2012, 12:42:18 PM » |
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Nope, he switched when he was with the Astros.
My bad-you are right. |
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« Reply #250 on: May 12, 2012, 12:47:44 PM » |
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I think you have your jones' mixed up. That was Chad Jones who the Astros drafted and decided to go to LSU as a DB and play baseball as well. JaCoby. Astros County LINK(s). Misc. article on how he is currently doing at LSU. LINKI remember Heck saying they made a "substantial" offer, but there's really no telling what that means. $1M was the number I saw mentioned on the webs (can't remember if there was a solid source). Rumored at $2M. LINK. See also earlier rumored $1.5M (via Randy Rosetta, who covers LSU baseball for the Baton Rouge Advocate). LINKGeez, and y'all doubted me... |
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« Reply #251 on: May 15, 2012, 04:22:30 PM » |
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Astros County post: LINK [And though I'm cut and pasting ACs full text, you really should keep the site bookmarked for Astros info (inc. MiLB and draft) - it is a SUPERB resource]. In Keith Law's first (ESPN Insider-only) Mock Draft (based, as he puts it, "on conversations with sources throughout the industry") he has the Astros taking Mark Appel with the 1-1 pick next month. Law acknowledges that they may sign a player willing to cut a cheaper deal in order to save money for later picks.
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« Reply #252 on: May 15, 2012, 04:23:42 PM » |
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More from Law's First Mock draft: LINK...general feeling is that [Houston will] take the college arm over the higher-upside, higher-risk outfielder, Byron Buxton … or that they'll take the best player who'll cut a deal below the $7.2 million slot figure and transfer the money to later picks.Law's top 5 shake out as follows: Appel; Buxton; Giolito; Gausman; Zunino |
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« Reply #253 on: May 15, 2012, 04:46:50 PM » |
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One of the top guys they pass up has a good chance to be playing against them for years on the Mariners (pick #3).
I'm curious about this supposed strategy of cutting a deal for the #1 pick and re-allocating money to other picks. Who are the signability guys who might fall all the way to #41 overall? I just haven't read about many top-shelf talents who'd be worth an extra $2-4mil possibly falling. Consensus on Giolito seems to be he'll still go in the first round.
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« Reply #254 on: May 15, 2012, 05:02:00 PM » |
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More from Law's First Mock draft: LINK...general feeling is that [Houston will] take the college arm over the higher-upside, higher-risk outfielder, Byron Buxton … or that they'll take the best player who'll cut a deal below the $7.2 million slot figure and transfer the money to later picks.Law's top 5 shake out as follows: Appel; Buxton; Giolito; Gausman; Zunino OSF, after following your Jon Meyer link, I found this fairly damning scouting report on Appel from John Klima. Hmmm. The guy just seems less and less appealing the more I hear about him- apparently Luhnow himself was at his start a couple weeks ago, though. |
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« Reply #255 on: May 15, 2012, 05:17:38 PM » |
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OSF, after following your Jon Meyer link, I found this fairly damning scouting report on Appel from John Klima. Hmmm. The guy just seems less and less appealing the more I hear about him- apparently Luhnow himself was at his start a couple weeks ago, though. Ya know, I've never quite decided what I think about Klima... Has some really good stuff sometimes, but there are the occasional head-scratchers from him as well... As for Appel, he's not a 1-1 guy on my list, then again I am almost always wrong (or always wrong, I forget) as to who the Astros might actually take. I'd love to see a high-upside Giolito type pick, which given my history will make him a certainty not to go there... |
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« Reply #256 on: May 15, 2012, 05:29:53 PM » |
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Ya know, I've never quite decided what I think about Klima... Has some really good stuff sometimes, but there are the occasional head-scratchers from him as well... As for Appel, he's not a 1-1 guy on my list, then again I am almost always wrong (or always wrong, I forget) as to who the Astros might actually take. I'd love to see a high-upside Giolito type pick, which given my history will make him a certainty not to go there...
I haven't seen any of these guys and wouln't know what to look for if I did. But I read alot and I'm hoping for Giolito, Zimmer or Gausman if a pitcher. I'm really intriqued by Correa though. |
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« Reply #257 on: May 15, 2012, 05:38:42 PM » |
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I haven't seen any of these guys and wouln't know what to look for if I did. But I read alot and I'm hoping for Giolito, Zimmer or Gausman if a pitcher. I'm really intriqued by Correa though. 9-3-5-6 in BAs current 2012 DRAFT: TOP 100 PROSPECTS list. |
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« Reply #258 on: May 15, 2012, 09:01:12 PM » |
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Is there a conceivable reason for them to send out false leads? I can't really think of one when you have the first pick.
I just don't get Appel. I thought he was only mid first round level last year, but heard that he might figure it out and start to dominate. He hasn't. I wonder if he would have even gone in the top ten last year. I question whether he would have been picked before Jungmann, and no one would ever consider him 1-1 material. Seems like a complete waste of the top pick.
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« Reply #259 on: May 15, 2012, 09:07:29 PM » |
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PG will have a mock up Friday, but had this earlier: The Astros' short list has reportedly been narrowed to the 3 big college pitchers (Appel, Gausman, and Zimmer) and the top 2 prep positional prospects (Carlos Correa and Byron Buxton). Mike Zunino could also be in the mix, as the new Astros ownership strongly prefers, and may have even directed the scouting department, to select a college player. http://www.perfectgame.org/blogs/View.aspx?blog=230 |
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