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« Reply #140 on: January 05, 2011, 02:33:18 PM » |
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He conveniently left off any reference to OBP (.408 vs .329 (!)) or runs scored (1517 vs 1143), too, or the fact that Garvey used four or five more seasons to accumulate his counting stats.
Or Bagwell's 202 SB while only getting caught 78 times to Garvey's 83 stolen bases while getting caught 62 times. |
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« Reply #141 on: January 05, 2011, 02:33:32 PM » |
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He conveniently left off any reference to OBP (.408 vs .329 (!)) or runs scored (1517 vs 1143), too, or the fact that Garvey used four or five more seasons to accumulate his counting stats.
Garvey had 2 top-10 seasons in slugging (10th and 9th) and none in OBP. Bags had 8 top-10 in OBP and 6 in SLG. Comparing Steve Garvey to Jeff Bagwell does nothing but display the ignorance of the person initiating the comparison. |
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« Reply #142 on: January 05, 2011, 02:57:20 PM » |
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« Reply #143 on: January 05, 2011, 03:06:19 PM » |
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Honestly, I'm surprised she said that. I wonder how much he paid her. |
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« Reply #144 on: January 05, 2011, 03:09:29 PM » |
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Honestly, I'm surprised she said that. I wonder how much he paid her.
Attention whores rarely need much other motivation. |
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« Reply #145 on: January 05, 2011, 03:09:34 PM » |
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I'd like to see some of his evidence for the "hotbed of steroids" claim. |
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« Reply #146 on: January 05, 2011, 03:17:03 PM » |
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I am afraid to know how you found that. |
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« Reply #147 on: January 05, 2011, 03:17:55 PM » |
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I am afraid to know how you found that.
Searched for "Jeff Bagwell" on Twitter. The name and content jumped out. |
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« Reply #148 on: January 05, 2011, 03:18:58 PM » |
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Attention whores rarely need much other motivation.
I hope she gets the attention she needs from her 20 Twitter followers. |
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« Reply #149 on: January 05, 2011, 03:21:21 PM » |
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I hope she gets the attention she needs from her 20 Twitter followers.
It was 10 when I found the link, you bunch of pervs. |
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« Reply #150 on: January 05, 2011, 03:26:23 PM » |
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We all know 449 homers are "very similar" to 272 homers.
...and that pennants are won by a single player. On his own. Without any help. From anyone. Especially if fielding first base. |
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« Reply #151 on: January 05, 2011, 03:28:34 PM » |
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Great tweet. How come it wasn't scrawled across her boobs? |
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« Reply #152 on: January 05, 2011, 03:32:07 PM » |
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Pearlman can also be found on Twitter at: @jeffpearlman
Asked him to back up these 2 statements, we'll see if he does...
"No two teams in MLB had more PED connections than TEX & HOU."
"with a franchise that...was known to be a hotbed for steroids".
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« Reply #153 on: January 05, 2011, 03:36:30 PM » |
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Garvey had 2 top-10 seasons in slugging (10th and 9th) and none in OBP. Bags had 8 top-10 in OBP and 6 in SLG.
Comparing Steve Garvey to Jeff Bagwell does nothing but display the ignorance of the person initiating the comparison. It's as if the last 30 years of proliferation in the understanding of baseball statistics totally whizzed past Bloom. Of course, as my learned friend Noe would note, you don't have to look at a single statistic to understand that Garvey and Bagwell aren't comparable types of players. I wouldn't be surprised if Bloom hadn't even heard of Bagwell until the ballot arrived in his mailbox. Alas, 10 years of membership in the BBWAA is nothing approaching a proxy for expertise about who should be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. |
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« Reply #154 on: January 05, 2011, 03:38:29 PM » |
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It was 10 when I found the link, you bunch of pervs.
you have to be a member to follow, right? too much effort... |
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« Reply #155 on: January 05, 2011, 03:39:51 PM » |
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Great tweet. How come it wasn't scrawled across her boobs?
I would put out the effort to follow her if that were the case. I turst you will inform me when that does occur... |
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« Reply #156 on: January 05, 2011, 03:40:44 PM » |
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Pearlman can also be found on Twitter at: @jeffpearlman
Asked him to back up these 2 statements, we'll see if he does...
"No two teams in MLB had more PED connections than TEX & HOU."
"with a franchise that...was known to be a hotbed for steroids".
Well, Ken Caminiti played for the Astros, and so did Miguel Tejada, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte. Jason Grimsley was in the organization. So there you go. |
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« Reply #157 on: January 05, 2011, 03:45:19 PM » |
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I would put out the effort to follow her if that were the case. I turst you will inform me when that does occur...
It happened about 5 years ago. |
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« Reply #158 on: January 05, 2011, 03:47:14 PM » |
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So much for "taking his ballot seriously." He notes that Bagwell is similar to Steve Garvey, who didn't come within sniffing distance of the HOF. So go all the way back... two posts previously... in his own blog: http://barrybloom.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/11/garv-boss-my-picks-on-new-hall-of-fame-ballot.htmlBut if I was on the 16-member Expansion era committee, which is charged with voting by the Dec. 6 Winters Meetings in Orlando, Fla., the choices would be easy: I'd go with the Garv and the Boss.
Why Steve Garvey never made it during his 15 years on the Writer's ballot has always been a mystery to me. I voted for him every time, although he always finished somewhere in the middle of the pack. Despite his obvious impact on Major League Baseball, this is George Steinbrenner's first time on a ballot considered by any configuration of the Vets committee with the express purpose of voting for owners.
The Garv: National League MVP in 1974, All-Star MVP in 1974 when he won his spot as a write in, NL Championship Series MVP twice -- once in 1978 for the Dodgers and again in '84 with the Padres when he had the single best offensive NLCS game I've ever seen: 4-for-5, 5 RBIs, and a walk-off, two-run homer to win Game 4 in San Diego against the Cubs. Still an NL record 1,207 consecutive games played. Need I go on? He's not just ignorant. He's a hypocrite. |
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« Reply #159 on: January 05, 2011, 03:52:08 PM » |
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Well, Ken Caminiti played for the Astros, and so did Miguel Tejada, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte. Jason Grimsley was in the organization. So there you go.
Cammy is a given. Grimsley what, a spring training with Hou. Clemens and Pettitte were nailed more for their pre-HOU days. Tejada? Also from pre-Houston days. Plus, none of these guys, sans Cammy, were playing with him during his monster years (the ones to which these comments would seem to be "relevant" to). What, are folks throwing in a veiled Luis Gonzales reference here? |
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