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« on: July 30, 2010, 08:39:11 AM »

From Bill Simmons' column today, wherein he bemoans the poor state of the Sox farm system.  Say what you will about his Boston homerism, but he follows his teams to an insane level of detail.  So then he tosses in this nugget following his assessment of their prospects:

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Note: ESPN's Keith Law had Boston ranked as his No. 2 farm system in February. When I e-mailed him for a July update, he wrote back that many of its top guys were underperforming and added, "They're not No. 2 anymore. Definitely still top-10." I'm not pumping my fist.

The lesson, as always: Keith Law is an asshat.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 08:44:04 AM »

I don't know how you do it. It's way too early for ESPN. I'm not even through throwing up yet.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 08:48:13 AM »

I don't know how you do it. It's way too early for ESPN. I'm not even through throwing up yet.

It's always too early to read ESPN.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 09:24:42 AM »

The lesson, as always: Keith Law is an asshat.

The gross tonnage of what Keith Law doesn't know about baseball could stunt a team of oxen.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 11:15:33 AM »

The gross tonnage of what Keith Law doesn't know about baseball could stunt a team of oxen.

Is that a John Hoynes quote on Sns? If so, bravo to you!
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 11:17:38 AM »

Is that a John Hoynes quote on Sns? If so, bravo to you!

The only TV drama I've ever bought on DVD.  Loved it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 11:25:27 AM »

The only TV drama I've ever bought on DVD.  Loved it.

have you tried The Wire? omg, i loved that series.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 11:27:24 AM »

have you tried The Wire? omg, i loved that series.

If I ever get Netflix On Demand set up on my blu-ray, that will probably be first up.

But The West Wing hit my sweet spot because it appealed to by admittedly romantic/naive sensibilities that government and politics can be a force for good, whereas I don't think The Wire (from what I've heard) )has quite that sense of optimism.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 11:34:37 AM »

If I ever get Netflix On Demand set up on my blu-ray, that will probably be first up.

But The West Wing hit my sweet spot because it appealed to by admittedly romantic/naive sensibilities that government and politics can be a force for good, whereas I don't think The Wire (from what I've heard) )has quite that sense of optimism.

That depends on the character. Omar could be considered a force for good.The Wire might just be the best drama in the history of American television.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 11:38:09 AM »

The Wire might just be the best drama in the history of American television.

There's nothing else that's close. It's an epic poem in video of urban America.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2010, 11:38:39 AM »

That depends on the character. Omar could be considered a force for good.The Wire might just be the best drama in the history of American television.

Its more about people who would like to make the government (or drug dealing) work, but fail.  I think McNulty, Carcetti , Sbodka and Stringer Bell are idealists to a certain extent.  

Amazing series. I've watched the whole thing 5 times I think.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 11:53:23 AM »

There's nothing else that's close. It's an epic poem in video of urban America.

agreed. i was totally hooked after 2-3 episodes. too many great characters to list completely. i had many favorites.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 12:33:36 PM »

I'm on my second pass through The Wire... F HBO for only keeping 6 at a time on On Demand, and then only rotating them out once a month.

Anyway, while I love The Wire, TWW is my favorite series of all time (surprising to many, given that I am a staunch GOPer). I have the exact same sentiment as MM... the optimism in its ideals was often inspiring (even in the post-Sorkin Era).
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2010, 12:44:36 PM »

I'm on my second pass through The Wire... F HBO for only keeping 6 at a time on On Demand, and then only rotating them out once a month.

Anyway, while I love The Wire, TWW is my favorite series of all time (surprising to many, given that I am a staunch GOPer). I have the exact same sentiment as MM... the optimism in its ideals was often inspiring (even in the post-Sorkin Era).

Optimism?  Who needs optimism? To me, the Wire is the best television series I have ever seen.  Admittedly, some seasons of the wire are better than others.  At its best, I echo Bench's apt description of "epic poetry" and would classify it as the best damn show I've ever seen, and, at it's worst, it's still really great TV. 

I forgot if this was posted here, but, either way, it's fun to revisit http://deadspin.com/55288...itter-hashtag-of-all+time
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2010, 01:45:29 PM »

have you tried The Wire? omg, i loved that series.

Far and away the greatest tv series ever.  It's the epitome of long-form visual narrative.  TV at it's very best.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2010, 01:47:15 PM »

It's always too early to read ESPN.

Bill Simmons would have to be the exception for me, if ESPN has one.  He's mainly basketball-focused (and loves Daryl Morey!) but he will take any and every player, coach, manager, GM or owner to the woodshed on any occasion, and then convincingly prove they deserve it.

His critique of the Tiger apology is priceless, particularly juxtaposed to his fellow-ESPN talking/writing heads (not naming names Rick Reilly but there are plenty to go around online and on TV) who want so badly to to not dislike this guy that they'll almost tear up everytime he looks away from the camera and sighs.

Simmons is too good for ESPN.  The dotcom version or the "family of networks" they boast.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 03:08:16 PM »

I can really only tolerate Simmons' pop culture commentary. His sports stuff makes me cringe more than it makes me laugh.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2010, 03:11:27 PM »

I can really only tolerate Simmons' pop culture commentary. His sports stuff makes me cringe more than it makes me laugh.

I liked his NBA book.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 03:12:54 PM »

I've always liked Simmons, all the way back from his Boston Sports Guy web site.  He's hardly 100% insightful or accurate (in fact he's generally delusional), but he's always entertaining reading.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 03:14:02 PM »

I can really only tolerate Simmons' pop culture commentary. His sports stuff makes me cringe more than it makes me laugh.

Just the opposite for me.  I have no interest in his marathon podcasts discussing the virtues of the Jersey Shore cast with one of his pals, but I love his NBA analysis and especially his candor on anything sports-related.  He really doesn't care who's offended or flattered.
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