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« on: July 29, 2010, 04:28:27 PM »

Much like I thoroughly enjoyed when Lidge went back to the World Series and won, the idea of seeing Oswalt in the post-season and then quite possibly helping dethrone the Yankees is awesome. I want to see that happen, I have nothing against Oswalt per se other than he was not meant to be the heir apparent, he was meant to be a spoke in the wheel and not the main cog.  Nothing wrong with that, he's now just that... a wonderful spoke to a now much stronger wheel over in Philly.

I want to see that carry through to the end with Oswalt helping lift the World Series throphy while the Yankees's Joe Giradi is waiting to give his "Well, we tried. I'm proud of my guys, we battled.  That's a great team over there" speech.
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 04:30:31 PM »

Much like I thoroughly enjoyed when Lidge went back to the World Series and won, the idea of seeing Oswalt in the post-season and then quite possibly helping dethrone the Yankees is awesome. I want to see that happen, I have nothing against Oswalt per se other than he was not meant to be the heir apparent, he was meant to be a spoke in the wheel and not the main cog.  Nothing wrong with that, he's now just that... a wonderful spoke to a now much stronger wheel over in Philly.

I want to see that carry through to the end with Oswalt helping lift the World Series throphy while the Yankees's Joe Giradi is waiting to give his "Well, we tried. I'm proud of my guys, we battled.  That's a great team over there" speech.

the difference between Lidge and Oswalt is class, especially in the face of adversity. one has it, and one does not.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 04:39:22 PM »

Roy used to have class, didn't he?
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 04:40:40 PM »

Roy used to have class, didn't he?

I think you're right, he went to junior college!
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 04:47:42 PM »

the difference between Lidge and Oswalt is class, especially in the face of adversity. one has it, and one does not.

Amen.  Lidge will always be one of my favorites for that reason.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 05:08:26 PM »

Amen.  Lidge will always be one of my favorites for that reason.

This post is fuckin' huge!
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 05:09:42 PM »

This post is fuckin' huge!
One of the greatest moments in Astros history.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 05:26:37 PM »

but remember oswalt has a truck and a battery.. wonder how that will go over in the big PPPPPPPP
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 05:40:23 PM »

I want to see that carry through to the end with Oswalt helping lift the World Series throphy while the Yankees's Joe Giradi is waiting to give his "Well, we tried. I'm proud of my guys, we battled.  That's a great team over there" speech.

A number of folks saying that the biggest winners in the Lee, Haren and Oswalt sweepstakes were the Rays, because none of those pitchers went to the Yankees.   
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 06:30:41 PM »

the difference between Lidge and Oswalt is class, especially in the face of adversity. one has it, and one does not.

Thanks to ESPN and others who won't ever let it go, it's sad that he'll be remembered more for what turned out to be a meaningless homerun over a perfect season three years later.  I just wish he could have killed in the 2005 World Series -- maybe gotten a save or two -- to show he hadn't gone mental over the Pujols bomb.  I wished that as much for his sake as for what the results would have meant for the team.  He showed everyone eventually -- everyone who chose to notice, that is.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2010, 08:35:35 PM »

This post is fuckin' huge!

I still laugh every time I think about that.  someone seriously needs to put that moment up on youtube.  I have that game/postgame on dvd, but hell if I know how to rip it and all that.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2010, 08:49:22 PM »

Much like I thoroughly enjoyed when Lidge went back to the World Series and won, the idea of seeing Oswalt in the post-season and then quite possibly helping dethrone the Yankees is awesome. I want to see that happen, I have nothing against Oswalt per se other than he was not meant to be the heir apparent, he was meant to be a spoke in the wheel and not the main cog.  Nothing wrong with that, he's now just that... a wonderful spoke to a now much stronger wheel over in Philly.

I want to see that carry through to the end with Oswalt helping lift the World Series throphy while the Yankees's Joe Giradi is waiting to give his "Well, we tried. I'm proud of my guys, we battled.  That's a great team over there" speech.

Oswalt has been one of the finest pitchers of his era and is perhaps the best pitcher in club history. He was always surly to an extent that got unbearable in the end. But it really is too bad that the team's decline since 2006 hastened his departure.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2010, 08:56:35 PM »

I've been rooting for the stubborn redneck for 9 years and I have no problem rooting for him for a few more months.  Yeah, he's bitched every once in awhile, but I can overlook that. 

Put it this way - he's closer to Lidge than he is to Clemens
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2010, 09:22:20 PM »

what ever happend to clemens? did he fall off the world or just move to zwolle?
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2010, 10:48:29 PM »

I've been rooting for the stubborn redneck for 9 years and I have no problem rooting for him for a few more months.  Yeah, he's bitched every once in awhile, but I can overlook that. 

Put it this way - he's closer to Lidge than he is to Clemens

bullshit. he is Clemens without the guts.
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2010, 11:21:27 PM »

bullshit. he is Clemens without the gut.

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 08:32:21 AM »

Roy used to have class, didn't he?

Class is easier to fake when you're winning all the time. Adversity shows your true character.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2010, 08:38:58 AM »

As Dr. Lizardo said, "Character...is-a what-a you are...in the dark!"
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 10:44:48 AM »

Quote from: Rudyard Kipling
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 11:03:07 AM »

Thanks to ESPN and others who won't ever let it go, it's sad that he'll be remembered more for what turned out to be a meaningless homerun . . .

I get your point and basically agree, but I'm not sure that was a meaningless homer.  It would have been nice to have a couple more days rest and our best pitcher starting the Series opener.
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