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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2009, 11:55:54 AM » |
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They state that the Aramark contract won't allow food or bev, yet several other parks use Aramark and they allow food and drink. You see the problem here, right? |
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2009, 11:56:28 AM » |
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It probably depends on their contract with Aramark. The contract the other parks have may allow for it.
Yep I get that, just sounds like to me that they were looking for an out. |
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2009, 11:57:12 AM » |
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You see the problem here, right?
Yes. |
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2009, 11:57:44 AM » |
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Problem I have with all of this is that Pam/Drayton are out and out lying to the fans. They state that the Aramark contract won't allow food or bev, yet several other parks use Aramark and they allow food and drink. In it for the $$$ and only the $$$. No way to run a baseball team.
I use to think Drayton was a good owner whom cared about winning most of all. Things keep happening to prove this wrong.
Just because Aramark's contract with the 15 other teams they serve allows outside food/beverage doesn't mean the contract with the Astros allows it. It's not like Aramark has one contract that they use for every stadium. Doesn't mean Houston didn't negotiate it that way, but it's highly likely that each contract has unique language in it. And likely, Drayton gets a slightly larger cut for not allowing the outside stuff. |
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2009, 11:58:11 AM » |
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Problem I have with all of this is that Pam/Drayton are out and out lying to the fans. They state that the Aramark contract won't allow food or bev, yet several other parks use Aramark and they allow food and drink. In it for the $$$ and only the $$$. No way to run a baseball team.
I use to think Drayton was a good owner whom cared about winning most of all. Things keep happening to prove this wrong.
Wait, is this all sarcasm? In that case, nice work. Thought I was on Chron for a minute there. |
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2009, 11:59:11 AM » |
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Just because Aramark's contract with the 15 other teams they serve allows outside food/beverage doesn't mean the contract with the Astros allows it. It's not like Aramark has one contract that they use for every stadium.
Doesn't mean Houston didn't negotiate it that way, but it's highly likely that each contract has unique language in it. And likely, Drayton gets a slightly larger cut for not allowing the outside stuff.
I agree and understand this. But it sounded like to me they were trying put the blame all on Aramark. Not the case. |
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2009, 12:02:37 PM » |
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Wait, is this all sarcasm? In that case, nice work. Thought I was on Chron for a minute there.
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 12:05:58 PM » |
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The other distractor is that the Astros claim that they do not have high ticket prices like other parks around the league in order to mitigate allowances for BYOF - bring your own food. I'm not sure about the correlation though, seems to be a stretch. But if they say to me "You can have 20 dollar tickets and bring your own food or 10 dollar tickets and buy from us", then my answer is Option 2.
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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2009, 12:19:42 PM » |
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Aramark blows in every way. And this is suddenly news? Like Taras, it's been this way for as long as I can remember being an Astros fan.
Sure, I hate the pricing scheme and outside food policy, but I also hate drivers who talk on their cell phones, drive real slow, and generally just get in my way.
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2009, 12:29:16 PM » |
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I'm calling bullshit on this: Banning outside food at Astros games “has been kind of a tradition in Houston,” said Astros owner Drayton McLane, who purchased the team in 1992. Whenever a reporter snips a quote selectively as David Barron did here, you can almost be certain that he's purposefully distorting a quote to fit an agenda. If Drayton had said that, Barron would've quoted him in full context. However, it sounds so much better to characterize Drayton's comments by saying "banning outside food" than, say, "eating ballpark dogs and peanuts", which I'd bet is closer to what Drayton actually said. Drayton is not stupid. This smacks me as another smear job by the Chronicle. |
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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2009, 12:38:09 PM » |
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Aramark blows in every way. And this is suddenly news? Like Taras, it's been this way for as long as I can remember being an Astros fan.
Don't know about the days of Taras's youth, but as long as I remember, Harry M. Stevens had the concessions at the Dome...until they were bought by Aramark, but that was only right before the Astros moved out, IIRC. |
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2009, 12:42:41 PM » |
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I grew up assuming you couldn't take food into any stadium, any league, any level. When I first went to another park (a Rangers game, in college), I was stunned.
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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2009, 12:51:52 PM » |
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The first MLB game I went to outside of Houston was ATL in the early 80's. I was amazed at all the food people were bringing in. Since they began allowing outside food into the Trop when Sternberg bought the Rays, I make it a point to stop by my favorite Cuban sandwich place on the way.
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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2009, 01:03:43 PM » |
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Since they began allowing outside food into the Trop when Sternberg bought the Rays, I make it a point to stop by my favorite Cuban sandwich place on the way.
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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2009, 01:39:56 PM » |
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The Silver Ring?
No, that's long gone. I usually stop at La Teresita before the game, or if I am already in St. Pete, Cuban Delight Cafe or The Floridian if I'm at the beach. |
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« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2009, 01:43:36 PM » |
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No, that's long gone. I usually stop at La Teresita before the game, or if I am already in St. Pete, Cuban Delight Cafe or The Floridian if I'm at the beach.
You mean the original in Ybor is gone? I thought they kept that but got rid of the chain locations. Well damn. I miss La Segunda Bakery as well. |
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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2009, 02:00:20 PM » |
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Yeah, they tried to open another one a while back but it didn't work.
I like my Cuban sandwich pressed, mustard, mayo only. No lettuce or tomato. The place I loved was the Howard Ave. Market. Just a small convenience store on south Howard. Fresh bread everyday and the cook put a thin spread of butter on the outside before he pressed it. Unfortunately, the place ended up being in what's now "SoHo" which means everything good has gone away and it's all just pretension. It's a 'gourmet' pizza place now.
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« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2009, 02:05:13 PM » |
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Yeah, they tried to open another one a while back but it didn't work.
I like my Cuban sandwich pressed, mustard, mayo only. No lettuce or tomato. The place I loved was the Howard Ave. Market. Just a small convenience store on south Howard. Fresh bread everyday and the cook put a thin spread of butter on the outside before he pressed it. Unfortunately, the place ended up being in what's now "SoHo" which means everything good has gone away and it's all just pretension. It's a 'gourmet' pizza place now.
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« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2009, 02:14:26 PM » |
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Mayo?
Yep. The first one I ever had was at the Silver Ring. They asked me what I wanted on it and I asked, "What's usually on it?" They said, pickles, mustard and mayonnaise. That's the way I've had them ever since. |
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« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2009, 02:18:23 PM » |
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Yep. The first one I ever had was at the Silver Ring. They asked me what I wanted on it and I asked, "What's usually on it?" They said, pickles, mustard and mayonnaise. That's the way I've had them ever since.
Butter and mustard are the traditional condiments, but whatever you like. |
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