Zac D
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2007, 10:13:10 PM » |
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I would think that unless the Astros get an established closer -- cordero -- Qualls is going to close. Just playing out the logical trickle-down effect, that is one ugly bullpen. |
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cougar
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2007, 10:15:07 PM » |
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How much of his stats are you looking at? He has a .378 OBP in his minor-league career, and his OBP was routinely ~80 points higher than his average.
Like I said I'm not a stats guy, so I'm not sure how OBP and BA translate. I know .378 can be termed "pretty good", but I'm fairly clueless as to what's a good difference between OBP and BA. I leave that to the math geeks. I'm more of a history geek. To sum it up, I'll take a wait and see approach. I judge good hitters like ol' what's-his-name judged porn: "I can't explain it, but I know it when I see it." |
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DVauthrin
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2007, 10:15:45 PM » |
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Don't confuse him with Jason Bourne. It's just Bourn.
0 errors in 84 chances, but Bidge avoided errors too in CF.
biggio doesn't have bourn's track speed either. Think willy T type defender in CF. |
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2007, 10:17:08 PM » |
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CBS Sportsline rated Constanzo the Phillies #3 prospect (and their #1 position prospect) for fantasy purposes. 3 Mike Costanzo 24 3B Double-A: .270-27-86-92-2 (.368-.490) Lot of Ks, but his power and a potential opening make him intriguing. http://uwsl.baseball.sportsline.com/news/10414737 |
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DVauthrin
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2007, 10:17:35 PM » |
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Just playing out the logical trickle-down effect, that is one ugly bullpen.
there's no way they go into next season with this current pen even if they upgraded the SP. |
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cougar
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2007, 10:18:19 PM » |
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There is no point in discussing anything with someone who says "I'm not big on scouting."
Scour your stats sheets and tell us what you would have done.
I wasn't aware that expressing an opinion was suddenly verboten and subject to ridicule, Herr Kommandant. I'm going to guess that there's a dictionary somewhere with your picture used to define the word "elitist". |
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2007, 10:20:58 PM » |
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biggio doesn't have bourn's track speed either. Think willy T type defender in CF.
I think he's going to be a nice addition, any idea about his arm??? Zero outfield assists is a bit worrisome. |
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2007, 10:22:42 PM » |
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I like it. Bourn has a lot of upside, provides excellent defense at a crucial position and has the potential to be a good leadoff hitter that can wreck havoc on the basepaths. It could turn out to be a steal of a trade in a few years.
Also, if they can sign someone like Linebrink, the loss of Lidge would be lessened.
It's gonna be interesting to see what they do after this.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2007, 10:24:35 PM » |
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Yeahn boy. Zero assists. Cancel the deal.
Holy shit. What is up with you guys?
WFW, cougar.
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2007, 10:26:07 PM » |
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I like it. Bourn has a lot of upside, provides excellent defense at a crucial position and has the potential to be a good leadoff hitter that can wreck havoc on the basepaths. It could turn out to be a steal of a trade in a few years.
Also, if they can sign someone like Linebrink, the loss of Lidge would be lessened.
It's gonna be interesting to see what they do after this.
good deal. save 5 million dollars, get a starting cf, and a good 3b prospect, could ask for anything more(except starting pitching...) |
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2007, 10:28:30 PM » |
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I think he's going to be a nice addition, any idea about his arm??? Zero outfield assists is a bit worrisome.
assists isn't the best way to judge an arm. the stronger/more accurate your arm, the less teams test said arm. From all accounts it's not biggio or damon like so it's fine. |
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2007, 10:29:51 PM » |
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Yeahn boy. Zero assists. Cancel the deal.
Holy shit. What is up with you guys?
WFW, cougar.
I like the kid, I was refering to his comment "Think Willy T" Willy had an arm, but lets be honest pence and lee arent exactly cannons out there...hopefully Bourn gets to everyball...good trade though. |
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2007, 10:31:42 PM » |
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I like the kid, I was refering to his comment "Think Willy T" Willy had an arm, but lets be honest pence and lee arent exactly cannons out there...hopefully Bourn gets to everyball...good trade though.
bourn is an a major improvement on scott's range, and that's the guy he's really replacing. |
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2007, 10:32:21 PM » |
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Yeahn boy. Zero assists. Cancel the deal.
Holy shit. What is up with you guys?
WFW, cougar.
Witty repartee Jim. Your razor wit cuts me to the quick. When does your next issue of "Internet Tough Guy Monthly" arrive? Back on topic, I like Costanzo's power potential. Had 27 last year in AA. Hopefully Geary can provide some middle relief. Sinker will come in handy. |
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2007, 10:33:43 PM » |
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I watched Bourn for three years at UH, and have been following him in the minors. The kid can flat out get after it in CF, much better instincts than Willy T and just as fast. He also works a lot of counts, great top of the order guy. The only think Willy has on him is arm, and MB's arm is more than adequate.
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2007, 10:39:41 PM » |
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I know a few folks here (who may or may not know more than me, though I'm wagering on the former) were big on Bourn earlier this year, so put me down as being cautiously optimistic. I am sorry to see Lidge go; everything I saw and read suggested that he was a stand-up guy, even when things weren't going well.
Here's hoping for the best for him, for Bruntlett, and for the locals as well.
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2007, 10:40:20 PM » |
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CBS Sportsline rated Constanzo the Phillies #3 prospect (and their #1 position prospect) for fantasy purposes.
Well in that case, it was a fantastic deal indeed. |
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2007, 10:44:55 PM » |
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Well in that case, it was a fantastic deal indeed.
If for nothing else, this trade was great because I would love to hear the colorful commentary this board's users can make with a last name like Bourne... |
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2007, 10:51:26 PM » |
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Did Bourn play a lot of CF in the minors? or college? He only paid 12 games in CF only 50-some innings. No doubt he will get some looks there and a chance to compete for that spot. He's played more LF than anything else. So, I wouldn't say the Astros are done looking at CFers. They just have another option if they don't land anther CF, and/or they trade off some of the other OF's. If Geary has a year closer to the 2006, he should really help the bullpen. Of course they need a closer now. The Astros also got a 3rd base prospect with some pop.
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