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« Reply #80 on: August 30, 2007, 04:56:56 PM » |
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you'd need to swallow hard to do this--Albers, Gutierrez, Patton, Pence or any combination--for a rental.
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« Reply #81 on: August 30, 2007, 05:05:55 PM » |
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you'd need to swallow hard to do this--Albers, Gutierrez, Patton, Pence or any combination--for a rental.
McLane would have to pony up the cash right away to make it viable. Wanna be a champion, Drayton? |
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« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2007, 05:06:03 PM » |
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That's not filing for chapter 11, that is chapter 13 and maybe a going out of business sale
kinda hard to be a Champion without some of them. |
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« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2007, 05:10:32 PM » |
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you'd need to swallow hard to do this--Albers, Gutierrez, Patton, Pence or any combination--for a rental.
It's obviously not my choice to make, but it wouldn't bother me if the Astros did go into rebuilding mode for a season or two. Don't make trades for rentals until you're really one or two players away from the top. That's certainly not where they are now. There are more holes than can be filled if filling a hole requires giving up two or three prospects. The only alternative is to step back, take a breath, hold on to the prospects and let them develop. |
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« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2007, 05:11:11 PM » |
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If you could manage to hang on to one of those pitchers, and have the deal contingent on extending Santanna for like 5 yrs at 18Mil per, I think I might do that deal. But giving up all 3 pitchers AND PENCE!!!! would be too much. As the Astros would gut what little they have left in the farm system.
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« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2007, 05:12:14 PM » |
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It's obviously not my choice to make, but it wouldn't bother me if the Astros did go into rebuilding mode for a season or two. Don't make trades for rentals until you're really one or two players away from the top. That's certainly not where they are now. There are more holes than can be filled if filling a hole requires giving up two or three prospects. The only alternative is to step back, take a breath, hold on to the prospects and let them develop.
That was what I THOUGHT the team was going to do until Drayton fired everyone. Now I don't see Drayton having the stomach to admit they need to rebuild. |
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« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2007, 05:21:03 PM » |
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If you could manage to hang on to one of those pitchers, and have the deal contingent on extending Santanna for like 5 yrs at 18Mil per, I think I might do that deal. But giving up all 3 pitchers AND PENCE!!!! would be too much. As the Astros would gut what little they have left in the farm system.
too many ifs. Santana is going FA. |
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« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2007, 05:23:28 PM » |
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That was what I THOUGHT the team was going to do until Drayton fired everyone. Now I don't see Drayton having the stomach to admit they need to rebuild.
Well, he needs to make an accurate and honest assessment of the current talent level, and when he does he'll realize he's more than two or three players away from contending. If he wants to fill those holes right now, he'll have two choices: trade away all (or nearly all) of his advanced prospects, or spend lots of money. And no amount of money will cause quality free agents to magically appear in this year's free agent market (the pitching market looks especially lame). Drayton's been in deficit spending mode wrt the farm system for a while, and it can't go on forever. It's probably time to balance the budget a bit. |
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« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2007, 05:27:31 PM » |
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Well, he needs to make an accurate and honest assessment of the current talent level, he is not qualified to do this. that is the point. |
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« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2007, 05:47:56 PM » |
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too many ifs. Santana is going FA.
That's most likely the case. I can't imagine the Astros giving up that much talent without Santana agreeing to a long-term contract as part of the trade. But, penciling Santana into the marketing campaign would certainly get Gardner wet. |
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« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2007, 05:55:06 PM » |
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That's most likely the case. I can't imagine the Astros giving up that much talent without Santana agreeing to a long-term contract as part of the trade.
But, penciling Santana into the marketing campaign would certainly get Gardner wet.
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« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2007, 05:57:59 PM » |
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But, penciling Santana into the marketing campaign would certainly get Gardner wet.
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